Henrik and Fredrik Palmgren of Red Ice Creations jive about David Shayler. We listen to a Recent Channel 4 News Report about his Claim to be the Messiah and talk about how this might be connected with David's Background in the MI5, we Speculate about Mind Control and Spiritual Awakening. We listen to a few Audio Clips from Previous Interviews with David about 9/11 Theories from Sky News and we compare David Shayler with the experiences of David Icke. Topics Discussed: Glastonbury Symposium: where this "Messiah Stuff" first was Talked about, the 9/11 Truth Movement, the "No Planes" Theory, Sky News Host and Guest Jonathan Margolis Reactions to Davids Information about 9/11, The questions if Shayler still could be Working for MI5? The David Icke Echo; Why? Is this a "Spiritual Awakening", Transpersonal psychology and much more.