Nick Redfern - The Men in Black & Mothman
August 21, 2011
We proceed in the second hour with Nick Redfern to discuss the men in black and the connection to the legendary creature "Mothman", reportedly seen in the Point Pleasant area of West Virginia in the 1960's. Some reports describe the MIB as having Asian features, others say they look like Sami people of the north. There are other theories suggesting that the men in black are the recognizance unit or spies of an underground civilization here on Earth. John Keel talked about their connection to the hollow Earth and the underground "King of the World." We'll hear what Nick thinks about this. Later, we ask Nick about the "Freedom of Information Act" and if there are descriptions of the men in black contained in official government reports. Also, we talk about sightings in other parts of the world and if they only are English speaking. Are there any connections to NASA? Did Albert Bender's fascination with the occult have anything to do with the phenomena? Nick talks about shamanic traditions and the Tibetan Buddhist concept of "Tulpas" or "Thoughtforms", and argues that if mind creates the world, then it's possible that this phenomenon is more closely related to us then we currently understand.